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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: PROPOSED NEW SHORTY? Reply with quote

Mark,

In your many talents can you provide a "Shorty" that is Semi-Auto.

Possibly by modifying an over&under for the addition gas chamber? or?

Would be nice to have a "shorty" that will give a quick 3 or 4 shot burst... I'd buy one if the price was right.

Oh and you would probably want to had a handle for stability but unlike the "Super Shorty" which fold beneath the weapon, I suggest the handle folds on the left side (for us right handers) so it could be held much like a Sten gun.

Food for thought?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: PROPOSED NEW SHORTY? Reply with quote

While I could certainly do it, it would probably take more than 3 weeks to get it done (i.e., several years). Wink Best thing going like this now is the Tromix (www.tromix.com) conversion of the Russian Saiga shotgun. I've still never met Tony but have conversed via email with him over the years. He's a good guy and has a great reputation. Great sense of humor, too! I'd love to have one of his conversions but can't afford one. Smile


Sniper wrote:
Mark,

In your many talents can you provide a "Shorty" that is Semi-Auto.

Possibly by modifying an over&under for the addition gas chamber? or?

Would be nice to have a "shorty" that will give a quick 3 or 4 shot burst... I'd buy one if the price was right.

Oh and you would probably want to had a handle for stability but unlike the "Super Shorty" which fold beneath the weapon, I suggest the handle folds on the left side (for us right handers) so it could be held much like a Sten gun.

Food for thought?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one of Tony's Russian Saigas on order.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish Sage Industries would sell their 1100/11-87 Sidewinders to the public. Sad

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wish Sage Industries would sell their 1100/11-87 Sidewinders to the public. Sad

Mike


According to the ATF that would put it in the same category as the Striker 12, Pancor Jackhammer, and USAS 12... illegal for civilians to own. Period. That's why Knoxx doesn't make a collapsible stock for the 1100/1187. It replaces the shotgun's sporting purpose with a "killin' folk" purpose. Civilians can't have semi-auto shotguns that are magazine fed and have collapsible/foldable stocks.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mortis wrote:
DistinctionArms wrote:
I wish Sage Industries would sell their 1100/11-87 Sidewinders to the public. Sad

Mike


According to the ATF that would put it in the same category as the Striker 12, Pancor Jackhammer, and USAS 12... illegal for civilians to own. Period. That's why Knoxx doesn't make a collapsible stock for the 1100/1187. It replaces the shotgun's sporting purpose with a "killin' folk" purpose. Civilians can't have semi-auto shotguns that are magazine fed and have collapsible/foldable stocks.



think SAIGA.. Magazine fed, semi auto, folding stock 8 inch barrel..

http://www.tromix.com/saiga.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mortis wrote:
DistinctionArms wrote:
I wish Sage Industries would sell their 1100/11-87 Sidewinders to the public. Sad

Mike


According to the ATF that would put it in the same category as the Striker 12, Pancor Jackhammer, and USAS 12... illegal for civilians to own. Period. That's why Knoxx doesn't make a collapsible stock for the 1100/1187. It replaces the shotgun's sporting purpose with a "killin' folk" purpose. Civilians can't have semi-auto shotguns that are magazine fed and have collapsible/foldable stocks.


A rumor I've heard before, but it can't be true. Numerous SAIGA-12 conversions have been done for years and no one's ever stepped in and reclassed the gun.

Now, I do believe such things could be possible in the future. (Imagine a President Hillary Clinton.) But if that rumor was true, the Saiga would have been reclassed a long time ago.

FYI, the Jackhammer is select fire. It's not restricted as a DD; they're all Post-86 DS.

FWIW,

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is my new SAIGA-12


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I wasn't going to Indiana (SBS aren't allowed there), I'd so build a clone of that.

It looks WONDERFUL! Did you do the wood yourself?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, it came from TROMIX with the wood on it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow...that is GORGEOUS!! I saw the videos of a full-auto one of those being fired on Tony's website. Doesn't seem that hard to control for a damn 12-gauge machine gun!

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here is my new SAIGA-12


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