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H2 · Newbie Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 1

"Is Oregon one of those states? I tried to do some homework, but it's hard to get a straight answer. I'm thinking of moving to Southern Oregon, but it sounds like there are lot of bans in the works up there as well."

I've been thinking the same thing - OR is the last real 'holdout' on the left coast-here in WA, you can supposedly buy suppressors (my police chief will never sign anyone's form), but you cannot fire the weapon with it mounted (!)...We can thank OSSA and others for defeating Ginny Burdick and Co., but Oregon is certainly at the top of the hit list, which is why it is so crucial to support pro-gun org.s, such as OSSA.

http://www.gunlaws.com/links/linksor.htm
http://leslemke.users2.50megs.com/ogoreport/ogoreport.htm
http://www.ossa.org/
http://www.wweek.com/html/leada042899.html

amitbob21 · Dangerous Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 19

resago · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:26 am Post subject:

So how do those drop in auto sears work?

what are the legalities?
its ok to buy one, but you have to register it before you put it in the gun?

what are the correct steps of buying,registering,installing a DIAS legaly and correctly Question

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mrkubota · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:48 pm Post subject:

They are considered to be a 'machine gun' just as though you bought the whole gun already assembled. As such, it would also have to *already* have been serialized and registered with all other NFA machine guns back in '86 to be transferable today. (and then only if you live in a NFA state)

(or you could become a manufacturer/dealer like Mark and make your own!)

resago · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject:

so whats with the ads in SGN selling DIAS for $100?
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mrkubota · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:27 pm Post subject:

As long as you don't have any of the rest of the AR-15/16 parts that make the 'rest' of the gun, then they're 'legal' to posess. Otherwise, you could be up on charges for illegal 'manufacture' of a machinegun. Those ads could just be the ATF trolling...

(they're just a bit of sheet metal, really not much to see...)

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RevGreg · Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject:

dastrieg · Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:13 am Post subject:

I read some where that the ATF had a record of 200,000 classIII weapons if for some reason they did that they would get like 200,000 more apps for them. Sounds like one hell of a fund raiser for the ATF.
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SCRAMBLD · Plebe Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 8 Location: Central NC

I was discussing this with another Class 2 Manufacturer this past saturday.

H etold me that the ATF had basically declared the DIAS as a Mg all by itself, even if you do not own a AR-15 or any parts for such you were still in posession of a MG.

Also he said that there are 2 ads in SGN one of which he was sure was the ATF, The other is just a guy with a phone, he contacts 4 other shops and they send you the pieces of the DIAS and you have to put it together.

and the Final thing about the DIAS, it was designed to fit Pre '81 Colt SP1 lowers, all the other commercial lowers out there aren't cut for it and you have to run an M16 bolt carrier for it to work and the your Ar becomes a full-auto only toy.

Batf has said that having any M16 parts in an AR shows Intent to build a contraband weapon, so you butt get further tossed in a sling.

As I said in the title.

DIAS = BAD MOJO

Jason

resago · Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject:

thats fine.

I have since found that the previous 10 years of video games has made my trigger finger PLENTY fast.
40 rnds in about 10s is plenty fast and expensive.
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twisted-mettle · Plebe Joined: 23 Apr 2007 Posts: 6 Location: Idaho

I have found that 'Bump Fire' is a nice alternative... all of the pleasure, none of the guilt... you can find some nice demonstrations on youtube-- although I hate to say too much for fear of the anti-gunners hearing about it and raising hell.