Serbu Firearms, Inc., Tampa, Florida

[Lumpy223]

I am confused as to the source of the receiver used to build the Super Shorty.

On the Super Shorty info page it states

The SUPER-SHORTY is based on a Mossberg Maverick (also available on 500 or 590 at additional cost) 12-gauge shotgun which came from the factory with a pistol grip

I have gone to the Mossberg site as well as the Maverick site and the only shotgun I see with a pistol grip is the Mossberg Cruiser model.

Did you special order some Mavericks with a pistol grip? Can you confirm for me that the original weapon was never assembled with a buttstock?

I am currently in a discussion on another board about the legality of a Super Shorty in Michigan. After much reading of our state laws, I believe that the Super Shorty is perfectly legal here provided the doner gun (Maverick) was never assembled with a buttstock.

Thanks for the input.

[dastrieg]

Well i dont think that you need to worry about the reciever Mark has been doing this for a long time, if there was a problem i think the ATF would have said somthing a long time ago, but hey stay informed and cover your a$$. The ATF as dumb as they are they know what is going on some times they knew about a suppressor that i had ordered and that the dealler drop shipped to me when i turned it in.
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[Lumpy223]

Yeah, I know he has been at this a while as I have been oogling his products for quite a while.

I realize that other states have a much looser set of restrictions than Michigan does. My problem is that I am kind of at a disagreement with others as to the legality of the Super Shorty here.

I have someone saying that the SS is based on a Maverick shotgun. Reading the site bears this out, but it also says that the Maverick came equipped with a pistol grip.

I haven't been able to find a maverick equipped with a pistol grip. I am just trying to confirm that the Maverick was never equipped with a buttstock.

I am learning my way around when it comes to machine gun laws but I am not real up to speed on federal laws in regards to AOWs. However, I do know that if the Maverick was ever equipped with a buttstock, the SS would be an illegal short barrel shotgun in Michigan.

If Mark can confirm that the Mavericks he is using have never been assembled with a buttstock, it would go a long ways towards my arguing that they are indeed legal here. It would also give me something new to start saving my pennies for.

[markserbu]

The SUPER-SHORTY is registered with the BATF as an AOW. To qualify as an AOW, the gun HAD to NEVER have a full buttstock attached. I'll leave the rest of my answer for you to deduce. FWIW, we've registered a few of them as Short-Barreled Shotguns, per customer request. And the funny thing is that it doesn't matter what kind of buttstock was on the gun if you're going the SBS registration route.

[Lumpy223]

Thank you Mark, you have bolstered my argument for ownership of one of your fine weapons here in Michigan.

Knowing this, I can find absolutely nothing in the Michigan compiled laws that would prohibit ownership.

People here are convinced that the Super Shorty is a short barrel shotgun (and prohibited) per Michigan's laws but a strict reading of the law shows something a bit different. According to my reading of the state law, the Super Shorty would be considered a pistol here.

Thanks again for the reply, its nice to see that my next stamp will only be a 5 dollar stamp as opposed to the 200 dollar variety.