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David@TNT
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:36 pm    Post subject: Barrel Options Reply with quote

You say there are many options available, is it just barrel length, in which the std is 29in, what advantages would there be to just adding 2in so a 31in?? From what I have read you need at least 29in to make effective use of the ammo, I dont belive I will go with the 36in bench rest but is there going to be a tremendous diff @1000 yard between the 29 & 31?? Also can you alter the barrel's girth as a bull barrel or is it allready stead fast as is?? Last question is the BFG a free floating barrel?? If so what are the adv of free vs. the std?? Any input would be greatly apprecated.. Thanks David@TNT
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David,
Basically any barrel can be installed in a BFG-50. We've done M2 machine gun, Lothar Walther, K&P, Lilja, Montana Rifleman, Mossberg and a couple others that I can't think of right now. Our standard is a Lothar Walther 29.5", but we've also done the 29.5" standard contour in a stainless. We offer heavy barrels (stainless or alloy) in any length, and have done 32", 34", and 36" so far. At 1000 yards your biggest enemy is the wind and yourself, and I doubt a little difference in length, girth, etc., is going to make much difference. I can't comment quantitatively, as there just isn't that much feedback from match users. Probably because there are only a handful of people who've shot matches with BFGs. I do know that a guy shot a 9.5" group with a totally stock BFG with the standard contour barrel. The BFG's barrel is free-floated. I guess the general consensus is that free-floated barrels are more accurate.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="markserbu"]David,
Our standard is a Lothar Walther 29.5", but we've also done the 29.5" standard contour in a stainless. We offer heavy barrels (stainless or alloy) in any length, and have done 32", 34", and 36" so far. quote]

I noticed on your pics that right before the muzzle brake there is a slight taper, now is that what you are calling the contoured barrel?? If so you also say a heavy barrel is availaible, kinda like a bull barrel?? Does that sound right or am I just rambling?? Im not so concerned of the weight but acc is a must, so what do you reccomend?? I completely understand the wind and novice factor but I do know that they make bull barrells 4 10/22 and it dramatically increases the consistiency.. Thanks 4 your time Mark
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Al B. (SOCAL)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:16 pm    Post subject: Bull Barrel Reply with quote

Mark has an awesome Bull BBL that is long and stout enough to place vertically as a flag pole at city hall! He can give you the dimensions and weight...but from the two I provided to shooters, I can tell you the brake and BBL were the same diameter. So in pics of a "normal" barrell, you can see the relationship between it and the brake and get an idea how much more beef you'll be adding.

A couple of other factors to bear in mind. You will be changing your balance point with a lot more weight forward, so this will make your beast very light on the bipod. May want a Prince-50 monopod for the rear to get the balance and be able to fine tune it.

You will have a larger freight bill to the FFL (and the UPS driver will not like you very much)

The rifle will not fit in a gun case Mark has available...instead he tends to build a wooden "coffin" or shipping crate. I think this is cool.....put some varnish on it, some handles and wheels and you are set.....until you add a scope. Then you need to do some carpenter skills.

But, if you show up at a range with a 3 foot long stainless steel baseball bat diameter barreled BFG....you will get all eyes on you, and it will be fun to shoot. Just bring a crew to haul it around, or get a HMMWV and a mount for the rear!!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the 36" heavy barrel version, there is a taper for the last 11", but you can get whatever you want. We've done them full diameter all the way out to the end. My latest match rifle has a 33" barrel with a taper for the last 11". A very good shooter buddy says that a taper at the end makes the rifle shoot better than without it, so I added it.


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markserbu wrote:
David,
Our standard is a Lothar Walther 29.5", but we've also done the 29.5" standard contour in a stainless. We offer heavy barrels (stainless or alloy) in any length, and have done 32", 34", and 36" so far. quote]

I noticed on your pics that right before the muzzle brake there is a slight taper, now is that what you are calling the contoured barrel?? If so you also say a heavy barrel is availaible, kinda like a bull barrel?? Does that sound right or am I just rambling?? Im not so concerned of the weight but acc is a must, so what do you reccomend?? I completely understand the wind and novice factor but I do know that they make bull barrells 4 10/22 and it dramatically increases the consistiency.. Thanks 4 your time Mark
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="markserbu"]On the 36" heavy barrel version, there is a taper for the last 11", but you can get whatever you want. We've done them full diameter all the way out to the end. My latest match rifle has a 33" barrel with a taper for the last 11". A very good shooter buddy says that a taper at the end makes the rifle shoot better than without it, so I added it.


David@TNT wrote:
markserbu wrote:
David,
Our standard is a Lothar Walther 29.5", but we've also done the 29.5" standard contour in a stainless. We offer heavy barrels (stainless or alloy) in any length, and have done 32", 34", and 36" so far. quote]

I noticed on your pics that right before the muzzle brake there is a slight taper, now is that what you are calling the contoured barrel?? If so you also say a heavy barrel is availaible, kinda like a bull barrel?? Does that sound right or am I just rambling?? Im not so concerned of the weight but acc is a must, so what do you reccomend?? I completely understand the wind and novice factor but I do know that they make bull barrells 4 10/22 and it dramatically increases the consistiency.. Thanks 4 your time Mark


Do you make the bull barrell version in the std 29.5 length, im new to the long range thing but I do know that my RRA AR-15 has a bull barrell all the way to the flash suppressor and shoots great, I trust your judgement on the taper, just was curious on the options aviable, and weight isnt so much of an deterrant I just dont want to change things up later.. If you do make the bull barrell in the std length or 31in is there a dramatic diff in acc?? I know it comes back to the windage and experence but there is deffinately an acc advantage or they wouldent use them in comp shooting.. I guess the question is how much diff?? And how much approx weight is added, thanks 4 both of yalls feedback it is been very informative.. Im about to order the bfg so im tring to get all the details worked out soon, I drool every time I look at your setup Mark, I have done quite a bit of comparisons on the .50 cal and hands down you have the best setup 4 the money!! Last question is the mono pod option 4 the rear, is that your setup Mark or is that someone elses addition?? Thanks David@TNT
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:30 am    Post subject: Monopod Reply with quote

David,

I think you'll find Mark to be very accomodating and willing to make your rifle the way you want it. He's commented to me in the past that some profiles and materials that folks have ordered have turned out exceptionally well, and were unlike what he imagined they would be. As an engineer, Mark can give you great technical input, thus leaving the final aesthetics and decision up to you.

The monopod is an aftermarket item made by a whiz here in California. If Mark does not have any...drop me an email to rea05g5b@gte.net and I'll get the info for you. Al B. (SOCAL)
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